Sun's Initial Response to the Open Letter by Apache

As noted by Tim O'Brien, Sun has posted their initial response to Geir Magnusson Jr.'s open letter to them about the licensing terms of the testing compatibility kit for the JDK. A key point in the response: "Java technology has many stakeholders, and we recognize that we will not be able to please everyone as we move through this process."

Other core points in the initial response:
Sun is working with as many communities as possible to create an open source implementation of the Java platform under GPL v2 that mainstream open source communities can work with - this includes TCKs.
We know that the open source process is a journey and we will continue to work with the open source communities and the licensees to determine how Java technology evolves.
This is only an initial response, of course, and isn't an actual reply. Therefore, the actual response could be very different - but this is also quite in line with much of what Sun tends to say on the subject.

The open letter didn't actually say what the consequences of not opening the license terms would be. What do you think? Is this a situation where Apache's substantial support of the Java community might wither? What are the business implications of there being no Apache-licensed JVM?


Threaded replies
· Sun's Initial Response to the Open Letter by Apache by Joseph Ottinger on Mon Apr 16 06:37:34 EDT 2007
· Re: Sun's Initial Response to the Open Letter by Apache by artful dodger on Mon Apr 16 11:13:06 EDT 2007
· Java 6 on Ubuntu 7.0.4 by Steven Goldsmith on Mon Apr 16 11:29:02 EDT 2007
· Java 6 on Ubuntu by Donald Kittle on Tue Apr 17 16:03:20 EDT 2007
· Easier by Alexander Zhukov on Wed Apr 18 04:50:56 EDT 2007
· Re: Easier by Steven Goldsmith on Thu Apr 19 11:43:38 EDT 2007
· Re: Sun's Initial Response to the Open Letter by Apache by joe fouad on Mon Apr 16 13:23:36 EDT 2007
· How long until open-source, Sun? by Frank Cohen on Mon Apr 16 11:13:56 EDT 2007
· Re: How long until open-source, Sun? by douglas dooley on Mon Apr 16 11:29:37 EDT 2007
· Looking for a timetable by Frank Cohen on Mon Apr 16 12:04:00 EDT 2007
· Re: Looking for a timetable by douglas dooley on Mon Apr 16 13:49:15 EDT 2007
· Re: Sun's Initial Response to the Open Letter by Apache by Stephen Colebourne on Mon Apr 16 13:25:28 EDT 2007
· Re: Sun's Initial Response to the Open Letter by Apache by Geir Magnusson Jr on Mon Apr 16 21:20:51 EDT 2007
· Re: Geir by douglas dooley on Mon Apr 16 23:55:55 EDT 2007
· taking the flamebait by Patrick Linskey on Tue Apr 17 01:12:35 EDT 2007
· Re: Geir by Geir Magnusson Jr on Tue Apr 17 06:47:04 EDT 2007
· zzzzz by douglas dooley on Tue Apr 17 14:37:32 EDT 2007
· Re: zzzzz by Geir Magnusson Jr on Wed Apr 18 12:51:55 EDT 2007
· who cares? by Bill Burke on Thu Apr 19 12:41:49 EDT 2007
· Re: Billy Berk cares? by Raul Garcia on Thu Apr 19 13:22:27 EDT 2007
· Re: Billy Berk cares? by Christoph Henrici on Tue May 08 05:01:10 EDT 2007
· Re: Sun's Initial Response to the Open Letter by Apache by Panagiotis Astithas on Wed Apr 18 05:51:33 EDT 2007
· I'm hoping by Tim O'Brien on Wed Apr 18 13:23:50 EDT 2007
· Re: I'm hoping by Ian Skerrett on Wed Apr 18 13:55:42 EDT 2007

iPoint Portal 2.4 Released, adds wiki portlet, enhanced multimedia support

iPoint Portal 2.4 has been released.

iPoint Portal is a leading open source JSR168-compatible portal specifically targeted at the creation of collaborative Internet, Intranet and Extranet portals.

The key aim of iPoint is to enable end users to build a complete intranet without technical expertise using only their web browser.

Version 2.4 contains many new features including:
A new Wiki Portlet which enables users to create many different wikis and supports WYSIWYG editing, embedded media and individual security permissions on each article.
WebDAV access to document repositories for drag and drop access from Windows Explorer.
Enhanced Media support with locally embedded images, video and flash etc. in all content.
All the features of the previous versions, obviously.
For more information see the iPoint website or the Java.net project.

Andy Oliver: "The Great Container Lie"

Andy Oliver has responded to a quote by Howard Lewis Ship on using a container for what it's good at. The core issue, he thinks, is that "container" is a loosely-defined term - and Andy is trying to correct that.

A container is just something that contains. Its the damn decorator pattern silly! I think the future is in small containers(like Spring and JBoss's new microcontainer) that only turn on what you need through intelligent introspection.

N. Alex Rupp on "Writing Domain Specific Languages in Drools"

N. Alex Rupp has written up a blog entry introducing "Expresso," a domain-specific language written in Drools (a rules engine), in "New tool for writing Domain Specific Languages in Drools."

Easy Version Support with ClassLoading

Tom Ball has written "Easy Version Support with ClassLoading," detailing how Netbeans divorces its internal classpath from javac.

Managing application versioning is a problem many application teams face, and some judicious classloading can make it much easier.

Craig Walls: Message-Driven POJOs

Craig Walls, author of Spring in Action and XDoclet in Action, has written a blog entry showing how to use Message-Driven POJOs in Spring with ActiveMQ.

Tim Boudreau: "When engineers (sort-of) read licenses"

Tim Boudreau has detailed his side of the Netbeans license snafu in "When engineers (sort-of) read licenses - a cautionary tale." The whole episode was started when Elliot Rusty Harold blogged that Netbeans' license wasn't open source, when Sun claims it is.